It’s been an interesting few weeks for the cosplay scene in Kuching. I attended both Boulevard’s CosVention and Sarawak Plaza’s Cosplay Competition, as an assistant and a spectator respectively. I’m quite impressed with the improvement of variety in the cosplay that was done during both events, however there’s still much to be said about the standards of quality. Both events have raised discussions and issues about the cosplay situation in Kuching. However, there’s no tangible benefit in comparing these two events, so I’ll get into the gist of my story.
Let me first speak about the defining sense of cosplay. Cosplay is an act of performance by costume role-playing as a certain character or an idea. Read that again until you get a picture that cosplay has a limitless scope. There is no definite definition of cosplay terminology since there is no such international cosplay standard written yet or any prominent authority to come up with one. It would be beneficial to have defined cosplay, but that would certainly take away the dynamics, and thus diminishing the uniqueness and fun of cosplaying, and even from professional (paid) cosplay. We’re not going to come up with a lengthy specification just to quell the terminology Nazis. I would like to point out that currently, there is only one international event that has a prominent role in promoting cosplay competition. And even then, organizing committee does not have an extended influence over the global cosplay community give out licenses to cosplay.
Cosplay does not just involve the cosplayer, it also involves those who interact with the cosplayer. Should we now offer licenses to witness, photograph, judge and create cosplay costumes?
I shall discuss more on cosplay during Boulevard’s event as I was more involved then. During the Boulevard cosplay competition, the organizers divided the competition into individual and group categories. I’ll talk about the individual cosplay category first.
I’m certainly aware that as a judge for the first day individual competition, there’s just too many factors to consider in evaluating an individual’s cosplayer’s quality. I personally define the quality of the performance and faithfulness to the role-played character as top criteria to fulfill. I have no qualms about allocating the best marks (scaled to local standards) to the top cosplayers when I judged, as they did satisfy the my expectations. However, I felt that the variety of cosplay was better on the second day, but I did not get to judge that round. I would like to also mention that all the cosplayers are very brave people to put up with the crowd’s expectations; congratulations on that!
The winners of Kuching Open Cosplay Competition 2009 – do I need to mention the characters?
I must point out that individual quality cosplay in Kuching cannot be judged subjectively through the crowd’s point of view. It’s hard to take the crowd’s judgment into consideration because the Kuching crowd is always familiar with mainstream characters and will root and connect better with them. Who will empathize or support the one cosplayer that only a handful of enthusiasts in Kuching know, but is exceptionally popular among the global visual culture community?
Now, the group competition is a totally different facade of competition. I personally feel that its a battle that comes down to the quality of the execution of the performance; to put it simply: may the best performer win. Faithful representation comes secondary to a brilliantly creative and artistic performance. I will justify that the champion deserved their win due to that the fact that they were the most coherent in presenting their story to me. In fact, when I think over it, their performance really brought out the mood and atmosphere of the story of the anime they were trying to portray, albeit with understandably imperfect execution of their elements, which every other group is guilty of as well.
The competency of judges is certainly debatable. I for one, am comfortable with the choices of judges present during the Boulevard competition. My colleagues for the first day and last day of competition were fairly competent and knowledgeable about cosplay and characters from various types of media, as well as the competition’s rules and regulations. Let me name them Miss Onee-sama and Miss Ojou-sama. Miss Onee-sama is part of the Boulevard events team and has a slight interest in Japanese anime. Miss Ojou-sama is a fashion-journalist with tonnes of fashion experience under her belt. No question about the experience they have in their own domains. Thus, my effort in lugging my 4KG laptop over to assist us in doing comparisons between the role-playing contestant and their beloved character. (ie. character and clothing sketches, general information about character characteristics) for the first day of the competition.
Honestly, there is no truly qualified candidate (and where do you get any official international certification for that I wonder) to judge any cosplay competition in Kuching, or even in Malaysia for that matter. There are a number of experienced and knowledgeable enthusiasts that have the ability to judge professionally and without any bias, and in Kuching these are the people who should be invited to judge due to their familiarity to the cosplay concept.
There’s still quite a lot of issues, more towards the side of personal problems; the clique inter-bashing and raging thing does not good for the community, my friends. I like how some cosplayers are taking the effort to understand and settle differences, that’s what I call beneficial clique characteristics. Kuching is just too small to have a fight over for.
And finally, to those that still think that I and Carol are under-qualified to judge, I suggest that you leave a comment and we can have a little rage fight right here.
Tags: Cosplay, Events, Kuching
27 Responses for "Kuching Cosplay issues; Is it like the Minorin water bottle issue – overblown and overhyped?"
XD good Job on posting this Rain… I totally agree!!!!
Kuching…. ermmm… I mean Malaysia, still isn’t qualify to V.S with other states on cosplay. Actually, the Boulevard Cosplay was my 1st time on seeing Kuching cosplay (didn’t had the time before).
Compare with my expirence of watching JP, Singapore, HK n Aus Cosplay in real live, (some only on streets… Just a quick flash due to my tour guide’s hurrying) I can say that malaysian Cosplay is lacking of something.
SWT, don’t know what but it feels like it.
Even Singapore n Aus is better than us. Both Cosplay n Daicon.
All I can say is “Gambare!!!” to Malaysia cosplayers… You are lacking of… ermmm… something which I don’t know what…. XD
I believe that we focus too much on the technical aspects of cosplay that what really important is left out: real passion and dedication.
actually the organiser dint use internasional marking system lo, if they do then mayb wont hav this problems lo. in my comment la
Yup… I figured the answer just now… Its the Cosplay Spiritコスプレの 魂… Lacking of that & also the cosplay posing…. hummm….
I some how think that there weapons should do a more actual like too…
etc, the FF swords of cloud n noctis or Blood + ‘s Saya’s sword. I can even see its a cardboard from far… Oh ya, and actual look, thats the most thing that they are lacking….
Well, They should do something about it though…. The only cosplayer I can approve on Kuching is Noctis only (if only he do something on the sword)…. the rest, Sorry, Do better next time.
@peacemaker: I can compare both international scoring and the score sheets the organizer used and find that they are almost the same in criteria.
@Shinra: I believe the Saya made quite a lot of improvement in the Sarawak Plaza event. She took the effort to put on fake blood stains, and her sword actually is pretty good up close (custom made fibre glass if I’m not mistaken)
saya-san saya-san~ <333
Hummm…. I recommend that they use a thin layer of real metal (don’t know the name… the thin,light, waveble metal thingy, alomenium? really don’t know the name) as the sword’s cover…. more real life… Oh well, can’t say anything cause they did their best…
(saya’s sword handle…. she have to do something about that, too fake)
GAMBATE NE!!!!
Do well next time…. It was fun….
@Shinra: I’m afraid that the closer you get a replica weapon to being a real weapon, the more likely you’ll get into trouble with the law. Btw, Yui Nendoroid preorder has just opened.
Oh no…. swt, out of $$$ hummm, my late order do? like next month?
If the Fig comes out, can I order like maybe end of the year? or after a few months?
I just want to know some things:
1. Do you actually understand the meaning of cosplaying? Do you?
2. Why was one of the judges(Carol) allowed to enter the competition even though she will be judging it?
3. Regarding the recent gothic lolita debate, why are you not directly mentioning it here?
4. If you say that the scoring adheres to that of the international one, why did you say, I quote, “I personally define the quality of the performance and faithfulness to the role-played character as top criteria to fulfill”?
5. Who approved the scoring criteria?
6. Will you specify how the cosplayers and the skit competition were judged?
7. What do you mean by cosplaying being about interacting with the cosplayer?
8. I quote the following: “Should we now offer licenses to witness, photograph, judge and create cosplay costumes?”. What has this got to do with the recent debate? Are you trying to exaggerate your point with that statement?
@just_curious: Thanks for the comment!
1. I shall point out that a lot of people think of cosplay in their own terms, and well the world is like, what the fuck, who cares about anyone thinks. I think of cosplay as what I have defined in my post: an act of performance of role-playing a character or an idea. In fact, what is important for the cosplayer to achieve is to replicate the mindset of the idea that they are cosplaying. For example, Haruhi could wear normal everyday clothes, and still be Haruhi. The question is: DO I THINK THAT I HAVE THE BEST AND MOST POLITICALLY CORRECT DEFINITION AND UNDERSTANDING OF COSPLAY? I’m not righteous or knowledgeable enough to claim such a crown
2. Carol only judged for the individual cosplay competition for the second day, whereas she had no involvement in judging the group cosplay competition the week after. I believe that did not have any influence on any judge-decision making during the group cosplay.
3. I was thinking of putting that in another separate post, to rage about HOW AWESOME IS YUKARIN IN LOLITA ZOMG. In all seriousness, I’ll shall mention that yes, I have marked down the champions for that aspect. That’s all for that.
4. As a person, I have my own personal opinions, but I will have to adhere to the criteria that’s being measured. My view of what quality performance has helped me in my judgement of allocating marks to the different criteria that are set in the marking sheet. I have to remind you that scoring criteria has similarities as referenced, but does not adhere to any international competition.
5. The organizer is the one handling the scoring criteria. Again, I have to reiterate that there’s still no legal cosplay standard to adhere to, to say that you have an ‘approved legal scoring criteria’ for cosplay. Now, if you’re talking about the Internet Protocol, we have what we call RFCs.
6. The two main categories of criteria that were evaluated are:
i. Performance on stage (having a higher weight for the group cosplay competition)
ii. Faithfulness to the character
Within those two categories, there are items like execution and preparedness of performance, quality and craftsmanship of costume, accuracy of characterization. Since my memory fails me, and I’m not allowed to keep the detailed marking sheets, you can refer to many other cosplay competitions and see that there are exact similarities in scoring.
7 & 8. Understand this: cosplay is a very dynamic, boundless hobby. Without the spectators, photographers, judges (for competitions), the act of cosplaying is not complete.
@Shinra: I’m not too sure actually lol
Oh… I see. well, I was wondering that, like example… there is a fig that came out last year, so can I order n buy it this year?
I’ve read your reply. I’ll just be straight-forward.
For Q1, what do you mean by “an act of performance of role-playing a character or an idea”? Explain in your own words.
For Q2, you didn’t really answer my question, I want to know why, not how. Please read the question again in case you got it the wrong way.
For Q6, you are not specific enough, please explain in detail about both categories. Keep your answer short and to the point.
You misunderstood Q8, what I mean is why do you involve licensing that is not even related to the debate which is about the “gothic lolita is a costume” issue and the skit winner controversy.
9. Can you describe the process of reaching the verdict of the skit competition in detail?
@just_curious: Let’s get cracking our heads again shall we.
1. Let’s put it like this, I cosplay as Danny Choo. What does Danny Choo do? Go around the streets in Japan donning his Storm trooper armour and dance-acting. I perform to bring out Danny Choo’s character. (now, I do not say replicate here, get it right) I could use many methods, one describe beforehand, but of course, Danny has many other characteristics as well. I hope the example works to explain the keywords of ‘performance’ + ‘role-playing’ + ‘idea’
2. “I believe that (the act of Carol being a judge for another different category of the competition) did not have any influence on any judge-decision making during the group cosplay.” However, I don’t have any authority to allow or disallow anyone to join the competition. You will have to ask the organizers on that, but I bet they’ll reason along such lines as well as to whether she should be allowed into the competition or not.
6. Maybe I should make it simpler:
Performance on stage (having a higher weight for the group cosplay competition, meaning more marks are allocated to this portion for the group cosplay competition)
- execution of stage performance
- preparedness
- creativity
- many more
Character faithfulness
- quality, craftsmanship of costume
- accuracy to character
- many more, sorry the need to remember my OSI stack takes priority over this at the moment
Sorry, I don’t have the memory capacity to actually remember the exact terms used, or the exact marks allocated to each criteria.
8. The licensing is meant to be sarcasm to the opinion I’m presenting, which is: standards should not limit cosplay, boundaries should not take away the fun out of cosplay, terminology should not be used to deliberately attack cosplayers faults.
Simple enough right?
9. Each individual judge evaluates the cosplayer/performance individually by allocating marks in the score sheet. After that, the 3 judge’s scores are summed up and the average is taken from that sum. The group’s average are then compared across the board. Whoever has the highest average marks get’s first place
Hope that clarifies up a bit more.
@Shinra: OHHH. Okay, well, it’ll better if you pre-order, since I expect Yui to sell out fast. Maybe you can drop me your msn on facebook so that we don’t need to clutter up the space here.
Oh, ok. I’ll add you on Msn but I wanna know if your msn, is it the email (gmail) as the 1 of facebook?
Woo~
Nice sword Saya-chan has *w*
Saya’s sword reali nice eh.. made of perplex I think? o.O gud to slash ppl XD its quite heavy haha..
I have a question too:
1. Lolita is Cosplay? Lolita is Costume? gothic is Costume?
2. Why can enter the contest and won since break the contest rules?
3. Should all contestant follow the rules? Why set the rule?
4. Did you “really” understand cosplay is?
>>”For example, Haruhi could wear normal everyday clothes, and still be Haruhi. ”
From your point of view, I have gold hair, but without spiky, i wear a normal clothing, then i said hey, i am cosplaying cloud! i am still cloud
thats sound weird.
I have read your comment. It’s better.
I just hope this controversial event won’t happen again because SAMS and I’ve anime already give a bad impression. It’s best if you could somehow fix the problem quickly for it may also affect your convention (that you have delayed) later on. The least you could do for everyone is that just tell everybody and make sure (including those cosplayers who are not from SAMS and yours) that this kind of thing won’t happen again.
Please tell the SAMS and your members to stop making this two issues worst and try to be more reasonable because people are sentitive and try not to be too sombong, be humble because I have heard rumours that SAMS is a sombong club and due to the photography exploitation, they will think the club ruins cosplaying or anything related to anime and games. In worst case, the club will have to close. I hope you could understand. The rumours are word of mouth.
If you don’t understand anything in this post. Let me know, just post it up here. I’ll get back to you. I’m always honest with my comments.
@rock:
1. I believe Rozen Maiden is a perfect example of lolita cosplay. I can’t really remember any gothic style anime though.~
2 & 3: I did not have any authority to allow or disallow any person to join the competitions, what I had is the power to mark, and yes, as I explained earlier on, if there’s any mistakes or faults, I would have marked down the marks for that aspect there. I’m very certain the other judges understood that as well.
4. I am talking about the character retaining its characteristics by itself not necessary by the way they dress, and if you are able to portray characteristics and mindset of a character, that’s certainly more than just donning an exact replica costume of the character.
@just_curious:
Thanks for your comments and your understanding. I do have to clarify that SAMS or I’ve Anime! did not involve ourselves (But, we bear responsibility over all our members’ actions) in the cosplay competition as competitors (only putting up the display and me and Carol being invited to assist in the judging), rather, some members from SAMS (+ friends they knew) joined the competition out of their own good will and desire to compete. I think they were aware that they have been marked down for their faults, and they have confided, even on the night, that they did not believe they would win. That’s the situation that I am aware of.
Rumours being rumours, I hope this post clarifies my decisions as a judge for the Boulevard competition.
Serene & TeddyTales: Too bad I didn’t take a close shot of the sword, haih.
No worries, maybe next time can boro to take closer shots lol.. I’m sure there’s gonna b a next time XD
“4. I am talking about the character retaining its characteristics by itself not necessary by the way they dress, and if you are able to portray characteristics and mindset of a character, that’s certainly more than just donning an exact replica costume of the character.”
EXCUSE ME?
Care to explain these then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUQsK_ii9Zk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycoAouqsCSw
@l’oreal_corgi: Those are perfect examples of how a cosplayer understands and wears the character’s characteristics, and that’s certainly more than just donning an exact replica costume of the character. To put it much more simply: there is more than just external qualities to a character, inner qualities bring out the true character of the character. Bringing out that inner qualities of a character in a cosplay is a definite advantage together with the showcase of their external qualities.
I’m starting to sound exasperated answering the defining of cosplay questions (since I’ve said all I want to say about what I think cosplay is about), so if anyone has no better questions than just cosplay definitions, I will stop replying to comments such as this.
Ah, I can’t stand this!
Look here, rain! You are contradicting yourself. First you said this:
“I am talking about the character retaining its characteristics by itself not necessary by the way they dress, and if you are able to portray characteristics and mindset of a character, that’s certainly more than just donning an exact replica costume of the character.”
Then after watching the videos, you said this:
“Those are perfect examples of how a cosplayer understands and wears the character’s characteristics, and that’s certainly more than just donning an exact replica costume of the character. To put it much more simply: there is more than just external qualities to a character, inner qualities bring out the true character of the character.”
You said a cosplayer need not dress like the character as long as he acts like the character. Have you even seen a cosplayer not wear a costume when he/she cosplays? Huh?! Huh?! Tell me. You see in those videos? Do I have to get you magnifying glasses to look at what they are wearing?
You are just plain defending your club, isn’t it?! Don’t deny it. Everyone knows what is cosplay. Nobody is stupid. You really want to know what is cosplay?! Here:
# Cosplay|コスプレ|kosupure, short for “costume roleplay”, is a type of performance art whose participants outfit themselves, with often …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay
# A subculture centered on dressing as characters from manga, anime, tokusatsu, and video games, and, less commonly, Japanese live action …
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cosplay
# Dressing up as anime and manga characters. Cosplay competitions held at conventions allow fans (known as ‘cosplayers’) dress up as their …
http://www.animetion.co.uk/glossary.htm
# cosplay (costume play) is the fetish for dressing as Japanese anime or manga characters. Read more on cosplay [ ]
http://www.japanvisitor.com/index.php
# Costume play. This refers to fans who dress up as fictional characters at conventions.
alankistler.squarespace.com/journal/2007/11/22/comicsci-fi-glossary.html
# (Costume Play): A very popular activity during anime conventions, also referred to as masquerading. It consists of dressing up as an anime or …
http://www.animeacademy.com/fut.php
# costume play. Like masquerades in comic and science fiction, anime, manga, and music fans dress as their favourite characters or musicians.
http://www.sequentialtart.com/archive/aug01/art_0801_4.shtml
# Derived from “costume play”, cosplay refers to the practice of dressing up as a character from manga, anime, video games or tokusatsu, or live …
http://www.mangaka.co.uk/
Do I have to highlight the meaning? Urgh, this is driving me NUTS! You want some more? Here: http://www.reference.com/browse/Cosplay
You want me to put you with a bunch of pre-schoolers to learn the term? They will even say “Hey, those people wearing costumes are cosplaying.”
You think you are being exasperate?! Nobody accepts your retarded definition of it. You want me to educate you?! I will, with an iron fist for your stubborn mindset. You want me to ask those international cosplayers to define cosplay for you?! What, don’t start preaching that you are being neutral because your PR (public relations) skills are being focused at defending the club and your vague ideology of cosplaying.
I cosplay too. I am not some idiot who will tell my other cosplay friends or newbies to wear t-shirt and jeans and just dye their hair silver if they want to be Sephiroth or other characters.
If you think you are so right, why don’t you just wear t-shirt and jeans and go around acting and telling people that you are Kratos from God of War. Isn’t that what you said? “Cosplay is mainly about acting as the character and having their mindset, ditching the costume” right, to summarise?
Though I’m a punk, don’t friggin’ go around telling those Goths and Lolitas that they are wearing costumes. You know how to differentiate fashion and cosplay, right? Okay, Cosplay Basics:
You want to cosplay as Bara Suishou from Rozen Maiden Traumend, you wear her dress and her eyepatch and wig and some makeup. She wears lolita but doesn’t mean that you can wear any lolita outfit and just go around telling people that you are cosplaying as her.
Stop misleading people already with your definition. Otherwise why would people ask you about it repeatedly. Even the club members define cosplay wrongly. Or maybe you are giving the wrong definition just to protect the club and the winners of the skit competition. Huh?! Huh?! Don’t start lying or preaching your false ideology again. I’ve had enough of it and I can see it perfectly through like a laser beam.
You want to talk about Danny Choo? He wears a Stormtrooper costume, I repeat: HE WEARS A STORMTROOPER COSTUME. He is cosplaying. You don’t get it? Let’s go e-mail Danny Choo and ask him to define cosplay for us.
Anyone wish to object?! Before you say so, I suggest you read my comment PROPERLY not as rain’s friend or the club member but as a normal person.
rain, you are killing me.
Let me teach you guys what an organisation will do. They will look into the matter, not defend or remain adamant on it because they know it will make things worse and they will remain neutral because the truth can be anything. You guys were in the wrong, non-club members agree on it and we know the truth. We know what’s going on here. Stop lying to all of us and just tell us what really happen and apologise to everyone!
You want to argue with the public?! There are millions of us out there. Your ideology of cosplaying is just polluting the new generation and budding cosplayers. So stop it, okay? Stop it.
@さつき真子: Sorry if my mumbo jumbo is not clear, let me put my point as simple as possible: Both external and internal qualities define a character and should be brought out by a cosplayer. My opinion has an emphasis on the internal qualities of the character, but in no way did I say that any external qualities should be excluded. That is why the scope of cosplay should not be limited to only include external qualities. Now, I hope this clears up the misconception you have here: “Cosplay is mainly about acting as the character and having their mindset, ditching the costume” right, to summarise? Cosplay meets more than the eye.
“You want to cosplay as Bara Suishou from Rozen Maiden Traumend, you wear her dress and her eyepatch and wig and some makeup. She wears lolita but doesn’t mean that you can wear any lolita outfit and just go around telling people that you are cosplaying as her.” <– For those who keep on asking about Lolita Cosplay, here’s another answer to that big question.
“I cosplay too. I am not some idiot who will tell my other cosplay friends or newbies to wear t-shirt and jeans and just dye their hair silver if they want to be Sephiroth or other characters.” <– Ah, my example of Haruhi. This is one large misconception that I must explain. Sephiroth has his signature costume, I believe Haruhi has many of her own as well (serafuku, bunny girl, etc), and her normal clothing in the anime (albeit it ain’t so defining her character as her other costumes; yet it is still part of Haruhi’s character mannerisms, choosing to dress normally during outings) I think this should clear up your question about this as well: “You said a cosplayer need not dress like the character as long as he acts like the character. Have you even seen a cosplayer not wear a costume when he/she cosplays? Huh?! Huh?! Tell me. You see in those videos? Do I have to get you magnifying glasses to look at what they are wearing?”
About Danny Choo, I’m talking about cosplaying as Danny Choo’s idea, the Dancing Stormtrooper. The example is meant to point out that cosplay is not limited to tangible characters but to ideas such as the Dancing Stormtrooper.
Honestly, I’m defending my decisions as a judge during the competition, and this has got nothing to do with my alignment to any club. And there’s no such involvement from any club in the cosplay competition as competitors (as clearly stated), neither SAMS or I’ve Anime. But I’ll be kind to address the issue, apologize and bear responsibility for any misconceptions, misunderstandings, or mistakes that I have made, and the others or whoever else have done not right. Cheers!
Hei rain, your response to さつき真子 is oklah… although there will still be people who will still be dissatisfiedlah.
Still, at least you apologize from you as the judge competiton and on behalf of I’ve anime. Hopefully, your convention (I’ve Anime Convention) will be better after you apologize.
Besides your definition, cosplay is oso used to promote anime, movies and games for free, no need to ask for payment mah, right?
Edit: I’m sorry to have to have editted this comment because I do not want to popularize the issue that was commented here, and it’s not my post to answer or clarify the situation. Thanks for your understanding.
To finalize, I will say that the money issue is a misunderstanding to be clarified in another post, not this post, my friends. Cheers!